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Yes, a lot Yes, a little No difference at all No, it is actually a little slower No, it is a lot worse Have not been around long enough to compare Results Polls Votes 91  Forum FAQ  •  Search  •  Memberlist  •  Usergroups   •  Register  •  Profile  •  Log in to check your private messages  •  Log in Jointcrackers Forum Index » Treatment » Addiction therapy    Goto page Previous  1, 2  Addiction therapy « View previous topic :: View next topic »  Author Message shallowhal Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Jointcracker Joined: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 13 The point of my post is to wonder aloud if the people who are obsessed with the notion of addiction and control feel as though voluntary joint cracking is different than involuntary joint cracking. Is there some fundamental difference between a joint that is cracked voluntarily and one that is cracked involuntarily? Is the joint that is cracked voluntarily more damaged by the fact that it was cracked voluntarily than the same joint that was cracked involuntarily? For me, getting out of bed in the morning causes multiple joints to crack involuntarily, writing with a pen or pencil causes some joints in my hand/fingers to crack involuntarily. I ALSO crack those exact same joints voluntarily from time to time. Are the involuntary joint cracks benign and the voluntary joint cracks evil? Does anybody else understand where I'm comming from? Back to top FOF Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Junior Jointcracker Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Minnesota I would think a crack is a crack. Is there a difference in what happens under my skin when I crack my knuckle intentionally vs. when I do it unintentionally? I doubt it. I understand the difference between my "involuntary" and your "involuntary" - you do nothing extra to cause your knuckle to crack. It just cracks when you are doing whatever you are doing. I guess I may have confused unintentional with involuntary. I crack my knuckles "unintentionally" (meaning it is such a habbit, I do not know I am even doing it when I am doing it...) I still say a crack is a crack... The dynamics of what is happening inside your knuckle (I would guess) would be the same - but, I am not a doctor! Hope that helps! David Back to top shallowhal Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Jointcracker Joined: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 13 Well, David, so glad you chose to respond. Sadly, I really don't think my post was directed to you (although I may be mistaken). My posts were directed to those obsessive/compulsive folks blinded by the notion of "habit". Just out of curiosity, what did you mean by, "but, I am not a doctor!"? In other words, how do you think a doctor would answer differently? Back to top FOF Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Junior Jointcracker Joined: Apr 09, 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Minnesota Yes, I meant that because I am not a doctor, I have not studdied anotomy, and therefore I can only speculate what is happening inside the knuckle. I dont know if a doctor would have more info or not. But what I meant to say was that the knuckle is still being cracked regdless of it was intentional or non intentional. A cut on your arm is still a cut on your arm - self inflicted or accidental. Biologically the same event has occured. Hope that helps... I may have just confused myself more than anything... David Back to top Blaze Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:36 am    Post subject: Supreme Jointcracker Joined: Jul 15, 2007 Posts: 1463 Location: Sweden hp wrote: Hi mate, 3 hours late, I've had a bad experience. Since last week, when I read this GREAT article : http://www.spinegroup.com/Advice/NkCrk.html I began to "NO crack my neck and spine" , I was good, I just cracked "naturally" 3 or 5 times at day (I used to do it like 50 times at day) . But today doing a "strong" streaching exercise before my gym (weights) workout , MY whole spine (neck and middle) , shoulders and arms , crack at the same time, and I got STIFF, I felt pain like muscular spams in my neck and back, so I cracked them more, and pain goes away after a while. I think that the theorem is: If you've never cracked an X joint , do not do it . If you're already a joint cracker, you must do it, you're joints and ligaments are already loose , and you have larger separation between the bones (i think that I was born with larger separation between the bones). If that is so. i worry when i am old enough to go to the gym because i don't want to be in horrendous pain each time i work out. 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