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This site is pointless anyway Results Polls Votes 93  Forum FAQ  •  Search  •  Memberlist  •  Usergroups   •  Register  •  Profile  •  Log in to check your private messages  •  Log in Jointcrackers Forum Index » Treatment » Posture    Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Posture « View previous topic :: View next topic »  Author Message dj100 Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject: Supreme Jointcracker Joined: Jun 26, 2008 Posts: 560 brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: MasterCracker wrote: Good posture does not come easy especially if your not 'in shape' If you are 'in shape' your muscles are strong enough that maintaining 'correct' posture takes less effort Posture can almost always be corrected Iyengar Yoga is all about correcting/improving posture And is loads of fun also now sit up straight This looks right to me. It fits my experience. In my case, "in shape" means flexible as is ordinarily possible, by yoga, and with unusually strong abdominal muscles. My own cracking urge, and practice, all in the spine, is certainly a postural thing. The body got stuck in a slumped over position, and now is trying to crack its way back into good shape. It takes forever to do it too. But this beats surgery. And it beats becoming a hunch-back. I doubt any chiropractor or other professional could get at what we ourselves can get at, to stretch (and crack) back into shape. It has taken lots of practice though, for me to become strong enough to stretch the tissues myself. You need leverage for it, and strength. I have lost lots of sleep doing it, having no choice in the matter. im scared to go to yoga because the class is full of girls and none of my friends will come with me. please brian help convince me to go. Hey, dj... Why do you think I also suggested yoga DVDs? I am waiting for the right moment to go to yoga class and I'm confident I will do. And DVDs isnt the same, I can't get the instuctor to correct my posture that way! OK, great! Look for the word "Iyengar". While the fellow himself may no longer be alive, I suspect trainers in his lineage will be the best for your purposes. That, or something similar. But any therapy-oriented yoga will be good -- and the standard asanas themselves should help, whoever teaches them. well i went to one class, its called fitness yoga but its just generally yoga... wasnt exactly amazing, i dont think it made any of my joints crack Back to top brianR Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:55 am    Post subject: Jointcracker Joined: Dec 10, 2009 Posts: 23 dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: MasterCracker wrote: Good posture does not come easy especially if your not 'in shape' If you are 'in shape' your muscles are strong enough that maintaining 'correct' posture takes less effort Posture can almost always be corrected Iyengar Yoga is all about correcting/improving posture And is loads of fun also now sit up straight This looks right to me. It fits my experience. In my case, "in shape" means flexible as is ordinarily possible, by yoga, and with unusually strong abdominal muscles. My own cracking urge, and practice, all in the spine, is certainly a postural thing. The body got stuck in a slumped over position, and now is trying to crack its way back into good shape. It takes forever to do it too. But this beats surgery. And it beats becoming a hunch-back. I doubt any chiropractor or other professional could get at what we ourselves can get at, to stretch (and crack) back into shape. It has taken lots of practice though, for me to become strong enough to stretch the tissues myself. You need leverage for it, and strength. I have lost lots of sleep doing it, having no choice in the matter. im scared to go to yoga because the class is full of girls and none of my friends will come with me. please brian help convince me to go. Hey, dj... Why do you think I also suggested yoga DVDs? I am waiting for the right moment to go to yoga class and I'm confident I will do. And DVDs isnt the same, I can't get the instuctor to correct my posture that way! OK, great! Look for the word "Iyengar". While the fellow himself may no longer be alive, I suspect trainers in his lineage will be the best for your purposes. That, or something similar. But any therapy-oriented yoga will be good -- and the standard asanas themselves should help, whoever teaches them. well i went to one class, its called fitness yoga but its just generally yoga... wasnt exactly amazing, i dont think it made any of my joints crack DJ, I think I mentioned that I started yoga at your age. I think I also mentioned my current age. Doing the math comes up with 40 years. Now, for several decades I left off doing any yoga. Considerable flexabiltiy remained though, due to starting young enough. My point is this: doing yoga is a long-term thing. And there is no short-term solution to what ails both of us. Continuing my story: the cracking is quite different now, even compared to when I first joined jointcrackers.com only a few weeks ago. This has been a period of rapid improvement. I hope other joint crackers will benefit from my viewpoint therefore. The problem has a solution, and at least in my case, was always headed toward that solution. I think the time will come in the next few months when I will no longer need to crack. Back to top dj100 Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:47 am    Post subject: Supreme Jointcracker Joined: Jun 26, 2008 Posts: 560 brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: MasterCracker wrote: Good posture does not come easy especially if your not 'in shape' If you are 'in shape' your muscles are strong enough that maintaining 'correct' posture takes less effort Posture can almost always be corrected Iyengar Yoga is all about correcting/improving posture And is loads of fun also now sit up straight This looks right to me. It fits my experience. In my case, "in shape" means flexible as is ordinarily possible, by yoga, and with unusually strong abdominal muscles. My own cracking urge, and practice, all in the spine, is certainly a postural thing. The body got stuck in a slumped over position, and now is trying to crack its way back into good shape. It takes forever to do it too. But this beats surgery. And it beats becoming a hunch-back. I doubt any chiropractor or other professional could get at what we ourselves can get at, to stretch (and crack) back into shape. It has taken lots of practice though, for me to become strong enough to stretch the tissues myself. You need leverage for it, and strength. I have lost lots of sleep doing it, having no choice in the matter. im scared to go to yoga because the class is full of girls and none of my friends will come with me. please brian help convince me to go. Hey, dj... Why do you think I also suggested yoga DVDs? I am waiting for the right moment to go to yoga class and I'm confident I will do. And DVDs isnt the same, I can't get the instuctor to correct my posture that way! OK, great! Look for the word "Iyengar". While the fellow himself may no longer be alive, I suspect trainers in his lineage will be the best for your purposes. That, or something similar. But any therapy-oriented yoga will be good -- and the standard asanas themselves should help, whoever teaches them. well i went to one class, its called fitness yoga but its just generally yoga... wasnt exactly amazing, i dont think it made any of my joints crack DJ, I think I mentioned that I started yoga at your age. I think I also mentioned my current age. Doing the math comes up with 40 years. Now, for several decades I left off doing any yoga. Considerable flexabiltiy remained though, due to starting young enough. My point is this: doing yoga is a long-term thing. And there is no short-term solution to what ails both of us. Continuing my story: the cracking is quite different now, even compared to when I first joined jointcrackers.com only a few weeks ago. This has been a period of rapid improvement. I hope other joint crackers will benefit from my viewpoint therefore. The problem has a solution, and at least in my case, was always headed toward that solution. I think the time will come in the next few months when I will no longer need to crack. so when you do yoga, are you supposed to crack because when i did i didnt feel any cracks Back to top brianR Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Jointcracker Joined: Dec 10, 2009 Posts: 23 dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: MasterCracker wrote: Good posture does not come easy especially if your not 'in shape' If you are 'in shape' your muscles are strong enough that maintaining 'correct' posture takes less effort Posture can almost always be corrected Iyengar Yoga is all about correcting/improving posture And is loads of fun also now sit up straight This looks right to me. It fits my experience. In my case, "in shape" means flexible as is ordinarily possible, by yoga, and with unusually strong abdominal muscles. My own cracking urge, and practice, all in the spine, is certainly a postural thing. The body got stuck in a slumped over position, and now is trying to crack its way back into good shape. It takes forever to do it too. But this beats surgery. And it beats becoming a hunch-back. I doubt any chiropractor or other professional could get at what we ourselves can get at, to stretch (and crack) back into shape. It has taken lots of practice though, for me to become strong enough to stretch the tissues myself. You need leverage for it, and strength. I have lost lots of sleep doing it, having no choice in the matter. im scared to go to yoga because the class is full of girls and none of my friends will come with me. please brian help convince me to go. Hey, dj... Why do you think I also suggested yoga DVDs? I am waiting for the right moment to go to yoga class and I'm confident I will do. And DVDs isnt the same, I can't get the instuctor to correct my posture that way! OK, great! Look for the word "Iyengar". While the fellow himself may no longer be alive, I suspect trainers in his lineage will be the best for your purposes. That, or something similar. But any therapy-oriented yoga will be good -- and the standard asanas themselves should help, whoever teaches them. well i went to one class, its called fitness yoga but its just generally yoga... wasnt exactly amazing, i dont think it made any of my joints crack DJ, I think I mentioned that I started yoga at your age. I think I also mentioned my current age. Doing the math comes up with 40 years. Now, for several decades I left off doing any yoga. Considerable flexabiltiy remained though, due to starting young enough. My point is this: doing yoga is a long-term thing. And there is no short-term solution to what ails both of us. Continuing my story: the cracking is quite different now, even compared to when I first joined jointcrackers.com only a few weeks ago. This has been a period of rapid improvement. I hope other joint crackers will benefit from my viewpoint therefore. The problem has a solution, and at least in my case, was always headed toward that solution. I think the time will come in the next few months when I will no longer need to crack. so when you do yoga, are you supposed to crack because when i did i didnt feel any cracks Doing yoga is about loosening up some stiff areas, and -- to a lesser extent -- developing some necessary muscular strength for what is needed here. Pilates is better for gaining the strength. Maybe I will write about that later. I believe the plow pose in particular has helped me to very gradually enable the spine to flex where it had been stuck. The vertebrae are joints, and joints are supposed to flex and bend and articulate. Yoga helps that to begin taking place again, in areas that have become too stiff. EVen young people can be quite stiff. Further: cracking can only occur when a loose joint encounters a stiff one. If we do not loosen up the stiff one, then cracking just makes the loose one looser over time. But, in cracking, the body is trying to get the stiff one to loosen up. We help that process along by means of yoga. I also strongly suspect that loosening is good if it takes place all over the body, and not just in one area such as the upper spine. I think we need the balance of a whole system participating in the loosening up. These are all of course just theories of mine. But they are based on observation. I am surmising all of this based on what is happening to my body. Cracking is vastly better today than even one month ago -- much less of it, and less pain. I am almost pain-free now, while cracking. And I am aware that you have not mentioned pain, regarding your situation. I think it is there, but that you have not yet gotten to it. The loosening process that I am describing certainly gets us into that. To understand what I mean, do please read some of my earlier posts back and forth with you, about how to stretch the stiff areas and so on. My situation also started, like yours, with pain-free cracking. That phase lasted many years. Later I encountered more and more pain. I am glad I did, since it enabled me to find where to stretch and loosen. Back to top dj100 Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Supreme Jointcracker Joined: Jun 26, 2008 Posts: 560 brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: dj100 wrote: brianR wrote: MasterCracker wrote: Good posture does not come easy especially if your not 'in shape' If you are 'in shape' your muscles are strong enough that maintaining 'correct' posture takes less effort Posture can almost always be corrected Iyengar Yoga is all about correcting/improving posture And is loads of fun also now sit up straight This looks right to me. It fits my experience. In my case, "in shape" means flexible as is ordinarily possible, by yoga, and with unusually strong abdominal muscles. My own cracking urge, and practice, all in the spine, is certainly a postural thing. The body got stuck in a slumped over position, and now is trying to crack its way back into good shape. It takes forever to do it too. But this beats surgery. And it beats becoming a hunch-back. I doubt any chiropractor or other professional could get at what we ourselves can get at, to stretch (and crack) back into shape. It has taken lots of practice though, for me to become strong enough to stretch the tissues myself. You need leverage for it, and strength. I have lost lots of sleep doing it, having no choice in the matter. im scared to go to yoga because the class is full of girls and none of my friends will come with me. please brian help convince me to go. Hey, dj... Why do you think I also suggested yoga DVDs? I am waiting for the right moment to go to yoga class and I'm confident I will do. And DVDs isnt the same, I can't get the instuctor to correct my posture that way! OK, great! Look for the word "Iyengar". While the fellow himself may no longer be alive, I suspect trainers in his lineage will be the best for your purposes. That, or something similar. But any therapy-oriented yoga will be good -- and the standard asanas themselves should help, whoever teaches them. well i went to one class, its called fitness yoga but its just generally yoga... wasnt exactly amazing, i dont think it made any of my joints crack DJ, I think I mentioned that I started yoga at your age. I think I also mentioned my current age. Doing the math comes up with 40 years. Now, for several decades I left off doing any yoga. Considerable flexabiltiy remained though, due to starting young enough. My point is this: doing yoga is a long-term thing. And there is no short-term solution to what ails both of us. Continuing my story: the cracking is quite different now, even compared to when I first joined jointcrackers.com only a few weeks ago. This has been a period of rapid improvement. I hope other joint crackers will benefit from my viewpoint therefore. The problem has a solution, and at least in my case, was always headed toward that solution. I think the time will come in the next few months when I will no longer need to crack. so when you do yoga, are you supposed to crack because when i did i didnt feel any cracks Doing yoga is about loosening up some stiff areas, and -- to a lesser extent -- developing some necessary muscular strength for what is needed here. Pilates is better for gaining the strength. Maybe I will write about that later. I believe the plow pose in particular has helped me to very gradually enable the spine to flex where it had been stuck. The vertebrae are joints, and joints are supposed to flex and bend and articulate. Yoga helps that to begin taking place again, in areas that have become too stiff. EVen young people can be quite stiff. Further: cracking can only occur when a loose joint encounters a stiff one. If we do not loosen up the stiff one, then cracking just makes the loose one looser over time. But, in cracking, the body is trying to get the stiff one to loosen up. We help that process along by means of yoga. I also strongly suspect that loosening is good if it takes place all over the body, and not just in one area such as the upper spine. I think we need the balance of a whole system participating in the loosening up. These are all of course just theories of mine. But they are based on observation. I am surmising all of this based on what is happening to my body. Cracking is vastly better today than even one month ago -- much less of it, and less pain. I am almost pain-free now, while cracking. And I am aware that you have not mentioned pain, regarding your situation. I think it is there, but that you have not yet gotten to it. The loosening process that I am describing certainly gets us into that. To understand what I mean, do please read some of my earlier posts back and forth with you, about how to stretch the stiff areas and so on. My situation also started, like yours, with pain-free cracking. That phase lasted many years. Later I encountered more and more pain. I am glad I did, since it enabled me to find where to stretch and loosen. I haven't been to yoga for ages, I really need to start attending again, especially as its free with my current gym membership. Back to top Danielle Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:46 am    Post subject: Jointcracker Joined: Jun 19, 2009 Posts: 38 Oooh keep going! Yoga is really good for your emotional well being too. Back to top brianR Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:24 am    Post subject: Jointcracker Joined: Dec 10, 2009 Posts: 23 Danielle wrote: Oooh keep going! Yoga is really good for your emotional well being too. I second that. Plus, it can even help other physical problems. There is nothing like spinal flexibility, for mental and physical well-being. Back to top dj100 Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:47 am    Post subject: Supreme Jointcracker Joined: Jun 26, 2008 Posts: 560 Danielle wrote: Oooh keep going! Yoga is really good for your emotional well being too. yeah im asking my friends now to go with me Back to top dj100 Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:48 am    Post subject: Supreme Jointcracker Joined: Jun 26, 2008 Posts: 560 because at the moment its only girls that attend (i have enquired) and i dont wanna seem like a perv. 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